Ep79 Marcia Martin - How to Lead With Your Own Voice and Break the Childhood Patterns Quietly Running Your Business

Marcia Martin  0:00  
And I was a young girl who grew into a woman in a man's world. I work with some of the greatest, most powerful men in the United States, and deal with power. I always thought I was a powerful woman dealing with men with power.

Suzanne Taylor-King  0:18  
Hey, hey, welcome to a podcast where dreams meet determination and success is just around the corner. I'm your host Suzanne Taylor King, and I'm here to help you unlock the full potential of your business and your life. Welcome to Unlock Your Way with SDK. Let's unlock your path to success together. Good morning, good morning everyone. Suzanne Taylor King here for another powerful Friday live conversation, and I couldn't be more excited today. My guest today helped take a company from zero to millions of graduates, she got knighted for her humanitarian work, and has trained over 300,000 people across six continents. She is literally a dame. Marsha Martin is the pioneer of human potential movement, and today we're pulling back the curtain, and we are going to talk about what it actually takes to transform how people lead, communicate, and show up. Welcome, Marcia.

Marcia Martin  1:39  
Oh my gosh, I am so excited, and when you told me we were live, all of a sudden I just froze. But

Suzanne Taylor-King  1:45  
now that's not like you. No, no, no. Live conversations, you know what? It lights me up to bring people like unfiltered, unedited, and you're so strong at that. So, thanks for being, thanks for being

Marcia Martin  2:07  
my kitties. Always love being on Zoom, so in case this happens, I'm just letting you, warning you in the beginning.

Suzanne Taylor-King  2:13  
Quite all right, quite all right. I'm standing up today, so you won't see my dog's tail go by, since I'm standing up, but yeah, pets, pets love to join us on lives. All right, so let's get into it. You were at the birth of the personal development industry. What do most people get completely wrong about transformation in 2026

Marcia Martin  2:42  
I think that what happens and what has happened in the movement from the beginning is there is a kind of slow change in the leaders from being a leader that wants to create space for you to find an answer for yourself and help you to go within and find your answer to getting sometimes addicted by the power and the fame and the money and the audiences to thinking they have the answer for everything and everyone and I think that today people need to be very careful to make sure they retain their own voice and that they consider transformation and transformational programs and leaders are assets and resources they can use to help them along their journey, but it's not that they should follow blindly.

Suzanne Taylor-King  3:38  
So good, because you know, I feel as though the online space is so full of, you know, directions - do this, do that, and you'll make $100,000 a month, and most of it is bs, in my opinion, but after years of thinking I had to follow someone else's plan or to-do list, I think the most important part for those newer leaders, whether you're leading yourself or you're leading 300 people, is that you have to listen to your gut, and I don't know why that's so hard in online space. Well,

Marcia Martin  4:30  
I don't know if it's just an online space, to tell you the truth, Suzanne, because people generally, I find I have trained over 300,000 people myself personally. I was one of the senior executives of Earhart Seminars Training, EST, which became Landmark. I started in the early 70s in this work, and at that time we had only 30 graduates.

Suzanne Taylor-King  4:55  
Wow,

Marcia Martin  4:55  
we'd done one seminar, and so I became the senior vice president. And by the time I left we were almost at a million graduates, and there are now three and a half million graduates worldwide, but I also worked with many of the other very great, and they're all amazing and wonderful leaders. I worked with Tony Robbins, I ran his company for two years in the early 80s when he was first going national, I helped him go national, and I helped him launch his book, Unlimited Power. I worked with John Hanley to help him expand Lifespring. I work with Bob Hoffman to help him expand the Hoffman process and the Quandity process. So, I've been around a lot of the leaders, and the I work with Jack Canfield, Jack Canfield and I co-created the Transformational Leadership Council and the Association for Transformational Leaders. So, I've been at the beginning, mostly in the background, not in the background, inside of the organization, of course. I was a star inside of each of those organizations, but in the background to the masses, helping produce and bring the human potential movement to the place that it is today as the self-help industry, which is now a $48 billion industry. So, most of the teachers and trainers are colleagues, friends, clients, or people that I have known since I've been early in my 20s and late teens, and what I find is that people generally look outside of themselves for an answer. We don't have the courage. We haven't been taught, when we're small, to go within, and so it's a natural tendency. It's not just online, it's a natural tendency to say, you ask yourself, gee, should I buy that? And you look at somebody and say, what do you think?

Suzanne Taylor-King  6:43  
Yeah,

Marcia Martin  6:44  
right. Or you look at your neighbor to see what kind of painting you should have in your dining room. Or you look at, you see, we look to see if we have agreement. We're trying to please somebody else rather than be in touch with our own power. We don't know how to be in touch with our own power, so we haven't been taught that, and so I think it's not just online, it's a natural tendency, and I think that when you are responsible and big enough and talented enough to be a trainer or a teacher or a leader or coach, because there's some great coaches and leaders out there, oh my gosh, that are great resources for humanity, for individuals to have their life work better, but something happens where it turns to what do you think is good for you to what you need to know is what you need to get is it's a subtle change, and when it changes, you got to be careful, because you get carried along, and then you find that you're doing things perhaps that aren't working for you, but then a fear comes up inside, you don't have the courage really to say, I don't think this is working for me.

Suzanne Taylor-King  7:57  
Yeah, well, I noticed that, you know, in I work with entrepreneurs and coaches and founders, and I think that's the number one lesson that they have to learn, and I know it was for me, full transparency, I was listening to everyone else when I first I had had business after business offline, and when I came into the online space, it was, I don't know what I'm doing, I have to listen to someone else, and I remember investing, I'm going to whisper, well over $100,000 in different programs, I just don't want my husband to hear. I'm sure he will, because now I just said it out loud. But just kidding, so much money and so much time and effort into listening to other people. You should do this, you should do that, you should have a lead gen system, and you know, it has to be, you know, a certain sequence of emails, and it all felt icky and weird, and not like me at all, and I think coming from the healthcare space, too, I was more caring and more custom, and for about five years it was listening to other people, and it wasn't working, and I was frustrated, and I thought I'm just going to do things my way. All of a sudden things started to make sense and click, and I think I don't know when you're working with executives, you know that lesson is typically needed to learn in real time, because they're leading other people, you know, it goes bigger than just leading yourself, because you're you're now leading other people. All, what do you think is the biggest barrier between, you know, on the surface you're leading other people, but then still struggling yourself to lead yourself? Do you think that's a big disconnect? Well,

Marcia Martin  10:18  
they all connect together. I'll tell you why, because the the thing that you need to know about leading yourself is you need to be aware of the patterns you have, and the patterns that you have came from making decisions when you were very young. Now, I work in corporations, I go into entrepreneurial businesses and medium-sized corporations, and even large corporations and train the senior executives in leadership and communication, but what I find is every single person operates according to the pattern that they have that they got when they were small, they made some decision. Now, if you read my book, I have a new book out called Sex, Power, and Transformation.

Suzanne Taylor-King  10:59  
Oh yeah, we're going to talk about that,

Marcia Martin  11:01  
I explain, or I share, it's really a memoir, and very experiential, and very storytelling. I explain how I thought I had to do it the way my dad wanted me to do it, and so that turned into needing a powerful man to be, you know, to perform for, to do well for, and that pattern kind of got me into trouble, because I sacrificed some of my own leadership and stayed in the background, because I was thinking, well, the man knows, and the same thing happened to me that you were discussing, I created a media company, I raised $2 million and I stopped being on the circuit of speakers and coaches and trainers, and I put together this company. I had this vision that we should have transformational media and content, television and digital, and on the internet, and it was a, it was an idea before its time, that's for sure. And I work with one of the highest powerful people in the industry, a person that had helped started helped start MTV, and what I did was the same thing you did. I thought he must know,

Suzanne Taylor-King  12:13  
he must know,

Marcia Martin  12:14  
he must know. But here's the funny thing, is in terms of being an entrepreneur, he didn't really know, because he hadn't been an entrepreneur, he'd had all the money he needed, and all of the resources he needed, and was at the top board, you know, when they started that, somebody gave them a chunk of money, and they already had developed product, and so here we were starting up a brand new company, the whole kind of thing that you do is different when you're an entrepreneur than when you're in the boardroom of some big corporation, but instead of sharing my wisdom, because I'm a great entrepreneur, I can take a company from nothing and create it in something, bringing something into existence from nothing is a special skill set, I can take something that doesn't exist and bring it to a place where it's sustainable and turn it over, so that it can be managed by somebody else, but did I use those skills? No. Why? Because I thought, because he must know, he understood he was in Hollywood, he had the titles, and so we forget that there is something inside of each of us is more powerful for our own journey than just listening to somebody else's answer,

Suzanne Taylor-King  13:25  
yeah, and I think you know when I hear you say that, I feel that so much, because so much of not only my clients, but total vulnerability here, me too, I, I was like that. I kept my mouth shut for years, you know. I was raised in the.. and you know, children were to be seen and not heard. I had lovely parents, but you know, that was how children were not supposed to have ideas, even in school, even in take that to college, and I think I've always been so rich with ideas and out of the box thinking, and I never used to say anything, and so when you don't talk about yourself or you're not brave enough to say what you know and what you see to be true, nobody's going to hire you.

Marcia Martin  14:32  
Absolutely, you know, Suzanne, that goes back a long time. You must have had a time when you were small where you decided, based on looking out at the universe, you're eight years old, or six years old, or five years old, that the way to get people's love was to be quiet, just like you said, that was the, that was the lesson that you learned, right, and so then you take that into your unconscious, because when we're up until around 10 years old, we're our. Brain is at a level of theta. In other words, our whole brain state hasn't expanded to where it is right now, where we're conscious like we are, and it's the same state that you are in when you're hypnotized. So, if you can imagine that you're an eight year old hypnotized, and then we make a decision, I'm never going to speak, and I'll be quiet, so that everybody loves me, and I'm a good girl. Well, that runs you just like if somebody hypnotized you and said you're going to burp every time I say the word orange, and you do after you're brought out of hypnotism, right? So we don't understand the power of those decisions that we made when we were little, and the patterns that they have in our lives, going through the whole journey of our lifetime.

Suzanne Taylor-King  15:44  
Wow, I mean, that resonates so much. And do you think the first step is really acknowledging and, and kind of being the, I usually call the, like, the conscious observer, like, oh yeah, I do that, oh yeah, I do that, oh I notice I do that, that's how I react, and which is more powerful than therapy, at least it was for me, that self-awareness piece

Marcia Martin  16:13  
hit it on the mark, because the foundation of peak performance is awareness, it is what starts everything else, so if you start living your life as if you're aware, not just that I see what's outside, but that I actually notice the thoughts that I'm having when that happens, body feelings that I have, the emotions that I feel, the actions that I take when that happens, you'll start to be aware of the patterns, if you can start to be aware of the patterns, you can start to have a choice point before the pattern kicks in, and you can start to change and have some choice about how you want to respond to the universe, rather than just naturally react with your pattern. The other thing I would say is, I think that what happens to all of us is we get to a place where we think we know we think we know we have to start pretending because truly if you ever think about it even when you are pretending you know you really don't know what the hell you're doing you're just trying out hoping that it works because it worked last time right and I think a more powerful stance for people to take is to come into a situation saying I don't know, and if I come from I don't know, I'm willing to see new answers, I'm willing to take input, I'm willing to consider feedback, I'm willing to look at different points of view, but if I think I know, then I resist all of that and just barge on the way I'm doing it, and it usually is you going in the direction that you shouldn't go, and you're going to end up getting to where you're directed.

Suzanne Taylor-King  17:50  
Yeah, yeah, I, I know sometimes when I say I'm not entirely certain, but let I know where to find out has earned me more respect recently. I asked for an opinion from a billionaire in the tech space about something I was working on, and lucky enough to have access to him through my mentor, and I didn't really want the feedback. There was fear, right? There was what if he says it's shit and horrible, and like I've put a lot of work into this idea, and I just thought that's where all value comes from, is asking for somebody who's been there, done that, done it at a very high level, and for him to look at my prospectus, and this is my idea. This is the way I'm approaching it. This is what I think. Super vulnerable to put yourself in that position for feedback, and it took about a day, and I received four pages of feedback. Oh, good for him. Well, he's lovely. But here's the thing, it was scary to open the feedback, and after the feedback, I thought, oh, this is a game changer for me, so my question from that is being brave enough to ask her feedback to receive the feedback. Now, of course, this feedback for me. Was good, but there's been times when I've had really negative feedback, and the choice point there, I think, is the most difficult for entrepreneurs, leaders of receiving negative feedback, considering the source. Do I respect the source? You know, all of those questions. And then allowing yourself to grow and change from negative feedback, I think, is almost more powerful than positive feedback.

Marcia Martin  20:36  
Well, you bring up so much that's rich, so I'm going to just share a few things, so you know, I teach a course called Leadership Mastery. It's a three-day course. I usually do it inside of organizations for entrepreneurial teams and for corporate executives, but I'm leading one for the public this summer in Washington, DC,

Suzanne Taylor-King  20:59  
and I'm just, I know, I'm just inviting me

Suzanne Taylor-King  21:02  
because I'm going to ask for an invite, because I can, I can, I can, I can be there in the room,

Marcia Martin  21:08  
we're scheduling the dates now, so I'll give all the information, but here's the thing, the thing that makes it such a fantastic course, and I've been tweaking it and tweaking it for years, and it's really magical now, is it? It's like, think about this. Think about how you learn to read, because you just go into a library now, and you pull out a book, and you're reading Hemingway, right? You don't think anything of it, or Shakespeare. You don't even think about, wow, how is it that I can read Hemingway? Because that's an incredible thing that is happening. Well, the answer is because you know the ABCs. Now, the ABCs, when you learned them, you didn't even understand what you were being taught. It was a letter and it had a sound, and then you learned it could be put together with a word, and then it could spell cat, or it could be in a sentence, and it could say Jack and Joe went up the hill, and then pretty soon you're reading Hemingway, but it's only because of the foundation of what you know of the ABCs. Well, there are ABCs, or principles, or fundamentals of leadership and mastery communication, and most people haven't been taught them. We've been taught other things, but here we are in a world where we need to mediate difficult conversations, we need to give people feedback that makes them more accountable, we need to handle stressful situations, we need to navigate all of this world, and we haven't even been taught the fundamentals of leadership and mastery communication, so one of those fundamentals is this, which is to respond to what you just said. Your body and your mind learn differently, so your mind learns by understanding, and as I'm talking to you, you understand everything I'm saying, and it makes sense to you. There are certain things that your body must learn also in order to be able or an expert at something. For example, you need to learn how to receive negative feedback. Now, in your mind, and that you understand is it's a good idea, and it will benefit me, and I should be able to ask this, but your body learns differently. Your body doesn't learn by understanding, your body learns by practice. The only way your body can embody something where you are able in your body is to practice it. Just like you learn to play the piano, you have to play chopsticks first, make a mess and be a beginner and keep practicing and practicing until you can play Chopin, so your body is a beginner at receiving negative feedback, and the first thing that it does is it panics and it gets nervous and it's not sure and it has my ears burn all of those things, right. Well, the only way through that, if you want to have your body be able, it's a skill set to receive negative feedback. You've got to practice it, so you got to get every friend that you can together and say, okay, I want you to tell me everything that you hate about me, I want you to tell me everything that's wrong about me, and, and what will happen is, as you start to do that, your body will start to realize, oh, I didn't die, oh, actually I got benefit from this, oh, I'm getting pretty good at this, oh, I can even ask for more, oh, I can lean in, do you see, and pretty soon you'll be able to receive negative feedback, and what's interesting about what you said is the biggest skill that any leader in life needs is the ability to give and receive negative feedback, because it's the only way we can develop others, and it's the only way we can grow ourselves if we see what's not working right, so. So you just have to understand there are certain things that, and once you get that, you'll realize, oh, okay, I'm going to ask somebody some negative feedback today, and, and when you are panicked and you're upset and all of that, you can pat yourself on the shoulder and say, you did such a good job, you were a fantastic beginner, because beginners don't look good, they're not right, they're always wrong, they make yes. Do you see? So then you're a great beginner.

Suzanne Taylor-King  25:27  
Well, I love this so much, because this tangible thing that you're talking about, the practice of it, the body connection for me was always to go into defense mode when receiving something negative, right. And I remember the first time that it didn't happen, and the words that came out of my mouth, and it was with a friend who we are very good at critiquing what each other does, but that was just beginning for us, and I looked at him, and I was like, oh, okay, and that became the kind of centering

Marcia Martin  26:21  
your body to learn.

Suzanne Taylor-King  26:23  
Yes,

Marcia Martin  26:24  
that's exactly what happened. It was incredible. Yeah, let me give you another example. You're young and you want to ride a bicycle, and your dad or your mom tells you how, and you read a book on how to ride a bicycle, and you think no, because they've told you everything, and what happens when you get on the bicycle, you don't know anything. It doesn't matter how much you understand that you should receive feedback. The only thing that gets you to the point you're talking about is you had it a few times to be aware of what you did to make a new choice to get involved, so that next time you rode the bicycle, you picked yourself up and got back on, and then you got back on, and pretty soon you're doing wheelies, because that's how your body learns.

Suzanne Taylor-King  27:07  
Well, love that analogy, and I'm going to steal that and use it, because my dad was a professional cyclist, so his him teaching me to ride a bike was, come on, just feel it, feel the balance, feel the center. So he, he taught me differently.

Marcia Martin  27:27  
Yes,

Suzanne Taylor-King  27:28  
same way he taught me to drive a stick shift. By the way, feel the engine, and I'm like, because

Marcia Martin  27:33  
he was talking to your body and not your mind.

Suzanne Taylor-King  27:36  
Yes, yes,

Marcia Martin  27:38  
telling you how he was showing you the feeling,

Suzanne Taylor-King  27:42  
feeling

Marcia Martin  27:43  
live in your body. Yeah, that's great. It

Suzanne Taylor-King  27:46  
was great, but I didn't. I picked it up like right when you were saying that, like that's why, that's why my son learned to skateboard and ride a bike differently and how I taught him was a reflection of how I was taught, which was kind of amazing.

Marcia Martin  28:08  
Also, in public speaking, because everybody says to me, when I go into business, they say I get them up in front of the room. Well, why do I get them up in front of the room, because I know they need to be speaking in groups as a leader, that's a skill set you have to be good at, right? 99% of them will say, "Well, I'm not good at that, I'm too scared, I don't want to do that. I, you know, I go, "Okay, I'm glad to know that you don't want to do it, and that you're uncomfortable. So now I know what to have you do up in front of the room. Right, the more that they speak up in front of the room, the better they get. Then I can actually teach them some skill sets, but until their body is able to be present and open and connected in front of a group where people are staring at them, I can't teach them any of the good tricks,

Suzanne Taylor-King  29:01  
yeah, yeah, that, that makes you know so much sense. You know, entrepreneurs, leaders, founders, you have to be able to talk to groups of people, and I think how many times that has come up for me, and it was scary in the beginning, but you keep doing it. I facilitated a networking group years ago, and when he asked me to do it the first time, it was on Zoom during the pandemic, and I didn't have my own. I had coaching groups, but that's different. Was a networking group, and he asked me to facilitate the meeting, and I thought, hmm, yeah, I can do that, and I was really good at

Marcia Martin  29:58  
it. Good for you.

Suzanne Taylor-King  30:00  
And someone in the room, she's now a mentor and a dear friend, was in the room, and she sent me a message on Zoom, and she said, I've been to a lot of meetings, I don't know who the hell you are, but we need to have a conversation,

Marcia Martin  30:18  
fantastic,

Suzanne Taylor-King  30:19  
and the conversation consisted of why are you doing this for someone else, doing this for yourself. So it literally changed a lot for me. So sometimes you know, positive feedback, if we allow it, can actually change the trajectory of our business, right?

Marcia Martin  30:42  
So, absolutely, feedback is really important

Suzanne Taylor-King  30:44  
of moving out positive,

Marcia Martin  30:47  
and there are so many of these principles, fundamental things for people to know and understand. Another one is the power of language. People don't realize that language actually is the bridge between your intention, your dream, something that you need to create first before anything can be real, and reality itself. So language is the bridge, so whatever you're going to manifest is being actually molded by your words. Language brings things into existence, you speak things into exist existence. So, I tell people they're living in what they spoke last year, so you know, people just think, "Oh, you know, I can say anything. No, you can't. I mean, you can't say anything, but I would be concerned about what you are saying, because think about what you're saying is actually a future you're creating for yourself that you're walking into. If you say I can't do that, this will never work. Now, I'm not saying to be Pollyanna. Lots of times people think that I'm talking about positive thinking. I'm not. I'm not a Pollyanna girl or a positive thinking girl. I'm a reality girl. So, I think you have to learn to describe the situation that you're in, in a way that's real and true, but also in a way that opens up an ending or a future of where you want to be. If you say, I'll never be able to do this, well, that might be true in the present, and you're being realistic. Okay, you can't do it right now, but do you want to end up is the future you want to create that you'll never be able to do this. Better to say something like, I can't do this right now, I'm really horrible at it, and I'm learning, and I'm sure I can get better. So, say what's so, but you say it in a way that opens up the future you want to create.

Suzanne Taylor-King  32:42  
Well, yeah, because we have to believe whatever we're saying to ourselves, and you know, if you have affirmations or I am statements, right, and you're creating that future vision of yourself, whatever you're saying on a daily basis, repeat it, you have to believe it for it to work.

Marcia Martin  33:04  
Yeah, you, there is a sense of belief that comes into it, but I'm talking about that. You're talking about, like, something like an affirmation, so somebody's thought about what they're going to say, and they've repeated, and they've created it. You start listening to people speaking, just listen and say to yourself, gee, I wonder if they really know they just created that as a future, so somebody will say something like, oh, you know, I can never get my relationships to work, everything always falls apart, like just think about that, that that person is saying that now, if they knew language was the medium that creates reality, why would they want to create a future of never having a relationship that works? You see, so it's just there's so many things that we don't know about how the universe works, how our body works, how our emotions work, how our mind works are the foundation of being an effective human being.

Suzanne Taylor-King  34:04  
Well, I love that so much. And let's, let's talk about your book for a minute, because can't wait to dive in to reading your book. The

Marcia Martin  34:14  
look at this,

Suzanne Taylor-King  34:16  
I know

Marcia Martin  34:17  
this is my new book, it's called Sex, Power, and Transformation: The Inside Story Behind the rise of the self-help empire told by the woman who helped build it. And this is my memoir. This is a.. I've discovered, Suzanne, this book is magic. Like, people are reading it, and they say, 'I can't put this book down. One girlfriend who told me they were going to read it on vacation, she was so excited, she got it, and then she called me up, and she says, I'm so mad at you, I started reading your book, and I couldn't put it down, and now I have nothing to read on vacation, so I think it's pretty funny, so this is,

Suzanne Taylor-King  34:54  
I love it, let's now the title alone is. Brave and bold, and that excites me in itself. So really admire that.

Marcia Martin  35:11  
Thank you.

Suzanne Taylor-King  35:12  
You're welcome.

Marcia Martin  35:13  
This is the beginning of the prolog.

Suzanne Taylor-King  35:15  
Okay,

Marcia Martin  35:15  
this is a story of power and transformation of miracles and manipulation of profound healing and terrible abuse, but mostly it's a story about patterns, the ones that shape us, trap us, and sometimes, if we're lucky, set us free in the 1970s a cultural revolution swept through America. They called it the human potential movement, and San Francisco was its beating heart, born from the ashes of 1960s counterculture. It promised something irresistible, that each human being's potential was largely untapped, and if developed, would lead to greater happiness, creativity, and fulfillment. That promise has since evolved into what we now call personal growth, self-help, and self-improvement, a $48 billion global industry. I was there at the beginning when it was still raw and real and dangerous with possibility. This book is so great because it has so many threads to it that I didn't realize because I'm sharing my story from point of view, and I was a young girl who grew into a woman in a man's world, I work with some of the greatest, most powerful men in the United States, and deal with power. I always thought I was a powerful woman dealing with men with power, and the challenges of that, and the patterns of that, of how we hold ourselves as a woman, and what we do, and what we say, and what we run into, and what we're willing to sacrifice, and how we hide our voice, and how we go ahead and do things, because we think the man must have the answer. So there's that thread, but there's also the thread of that there are things that you need to be courageous about, and that there is that courage inside of you that you can face defeat, you can face betrayal, you can face all of these things, and have it be a knowledge that it's some kind of gift that's given to you that you can use to learn something from, and that there's a purpose that the universe puts that gift in front of you, and it's not bad or terrible, but it's necessary. So, there's just so many, and it's a story of power, of how power is used, and how power is misused, and how power is addictive, and, and how we let people have power over ourselves when we're afraid to be in charge of our own voice, so it's got everything in it, it's got Hollywood, it's got politics, it's got transformation, but it's my story, and I'm just thrilled it's doing really well, and I would love Suzanne, for you to read it. Oh my gosh,

Suzanne Taylor-King  38:18  
I. it's. it's going in the Amazon cart today,

Marcia Martin  38:23  
transformation, I will

Suzanne Taylor-King  38:25  
read it before vacation, because I always start with such good intentions, taking books with me on vacation, and I, I really think when I go away, it's a complete break from learning, doing, checking email, looking at the online space, like I don't do any of it. I think I'm going

Marcia Martin  38:54  
to, but

Suzanne Taylor-King  38:55  
I don't, so I decided not too long ago not to have email on my phone or social my phone when I go away, and it's, it's almost like a lesson in returning who I'm being just in the wild, right? Like, who am I? And nine times out of 10, I meet a potential client on vacation, just from being me and not having my nose in my phone, and so it's really incredible to go away with your family and really just not do any of those things,

Marcia Martin  39:37  
and just be in the flow. Yeah, you're sharing, that's beautiful, and that's necessary for you to revitalize yourself as a human being. It's kind of like when you have an iron and you're going to iron a shirt, you're smart enough to plug it in, right? Because you know the juice that comes through needs to be there, right? And the juice that we need is to be still with ourselves to stop. Up and just allow ourselves to be, whether it's at the beach or just to be not on the phone and not handling a client and not just to be, and then that'll revitalize you. So that's very smart, and a little splash of juice in our martini. Yes, absolutely.

Suzanne Taylor-King  40:16  
So I would love to know what you're up to currently. Are you working with anyone? Are you still taking clients? Are you coaching? What are you doing right now?

Marcia Martin  40:30  
Well, first of all, I just launched my new website, it's Marsha martin.com and it's M I C I A, and I will hear it below, and it has all of my access to everything, you can get my book there and find out about it. I have digital courses that people can purchase, so they're live courses I've given and have videoed, and then I add different exercises to them in a digital way, so you can take the course and instead of paying $1,200 when it was live, you get to pay $97 when it's a digital course. Relationships, leadership, selling all sorts of different digital courses. I have a membership club where you can, for $10 a month, I've accumulated a lot of different videos from different workshops and podcasts and interviews and keynotes, so you can kind of have me in the back of your head all the time. A lot of

Suzanne Taylor-King  41:28  
my fun,

Marcia Martin  41:29  
yeah, a lot of my graduates say, "Well, what would Marsha say here? Well, what would Marsha do? And you know, because I have a particular slant on how life works, and I have my book, of course, and then I do coaching, individual coaching, and I do corporate retreats, and corporate training, and corporate coaching as well, not just corporations, but entrepreneurial business. So all of things are available by going to my website.

Suzanne Taylor-King  41:58  
Amazing. Well, I will share all of your links, including the Amazon link to get your book below this live, and it will go out in the notes. So, if you're catching this episode live, come back and watch the replay, and be on my list for Unlock Your Way with STK to get all the show notes and all the wisdom that Marsha dropped. Thank you, thank you, thank you for being so amazing from the time we were connected and introduced, just full of value, full of just life and conversation. I can't believe you've been doing this for 50 years, when you're only 50.

Speaker 1  42:44  
I

Suzanne Taylor-King  42:46  
know. Me too. That's why I say it, because I truly can't believe that I've been an entrepreneur for 40 years.

Marcia Martin  42:56  
I know, and such a great one. Thank you for the contribution you make, and all of

Suzanne Taylor-King  43:01  
the lives you have helped, for sure. You're so welcome, and thanks for joining me today, and being willing to have a live conversation. Thanks everybody. Yeah, have a great day, everyone. Thank you for tuning in to another empowering episode of Unlock Your Way. I hope you found today's discussion inspiring, and you're ready to take your business and personal growth to that next level. If you're feeling as fired up as I am and eager to unlock that full potential, I'm here to help you on your journey and provide that personalized guidance tailored to your unique goals and challenges. Simply book a one on one coaching call with me, and we'll dive deep into your business aspirations and see how we could co-create a roadmap for your success. And whether you're striving to scale an enterprise or just getting started, I'm here to support you every step of the way to schedule your coaching call. Simply visit the website at Unlock Your Way with stk.com click on the book a call button, and we'll turn your dreams into that reality. Subscribe and review on your favorite podcast platform and on YouTube, plus you can join over 800 entrepreneurs in the Idea Lab Facebook group. Let's make success as an entrepreneur happen together. Until next time, I'm SDK. Keep dreaming big, stay focused, and most of all, have fun while you're doing it.

AI VO  44:47  
This show is powered by Media Leads. To get your next great podcast produced, go to Media Leads co.com